Porn Valley- Remember when Keiko did that interview about having a fetish for Nazi uniforms and the fallout over that? www.adultfyi.com/read.aspx?ID=5551 Wait till ya read this one.
In the almost three years that she was in the adult business, Keiko retired twice, most recently at the beginning of this month. In that context, Keiko and Rob Longshot gave some parting shots about the business, the audio of which can be found on www.odeo.com. The following is basically a recap of that conversation filled with loads of ABC-style soundbites from Keiko and Longshot.
"We're catering to the wannabe stereo-rapists and the over 50 wannabe pedophile set- I'm outta here," said Keiko, explaining her reasons for leaving. Asked if there was a moment when she realized she didn't want to be a part of the industry any longer, Keiko said she had no regrets about what she's done.
"But I think a lot of things came to a head with the Eon McKai debacle," she said. "It was around that time when everything kind of happened all at once. I guess you can kind of blame Eon, but not really." According to Keiko, she and Longshot share "a bizarre psychic connection" where they make the same decisions at the same time and thus came to a mutually agreed upon parting of the ways with the industry.
Keiko mentions that McKai had become the hot topic of alt porn. But keiko also takes credit for inventing the term saying she sanctioned the use of the term for the alternative communities to use.
"I called Eon McKai the hot topic of porn but he's about as edgy as a butter knife," she continued. "Considering that he's never even on his set."
Asked about donkey punches as used in porn, Keiko said they're disturbing and disgusting.
"It says something about the climate and the people we are raising in this country," she continued, noting that porn was also expanding the notions of vomiting and pissing.
"It's this bizarre, icky crap that doesn't belong in erotica," she said. "It's no longer erotic. It's look I have an Hi-8 and some girls are willing to blow me on film- let's see how much crap I can crank out to make money." All that being said, Keiko feels that porn hadn't changed her at all.
"I'm a little more addicted to caffeine than I was when I started," she says. "But nothing's really changed."
Despite her objections to it, Keiko always considered herself a part of the porn community.
"But there's a drastic difference between myself and most other female porn stars."
Asked to explain what she meant by that, Keiko said most of the performers are so high they "don't know which direction is up."
"Most of them bleach their hair so much, they don't have any brain cells left anyway," she continued. "Really, they're doing it to support their habits or their deadbeat boyfriends." Keiko notes that she didn't bleach her hair blond but dyed it red.
"That was a little different and I only did it like four times in the space of six months," she added. "It's not like I did it every week so that I would be blond."
Keiko also put about 93% to 95% of the talent in the category of having either unhealthy relationships, drug problems or alcohol problems.
"There's 10 or 15 of us that are alright," she says. Asked what she learned from her experience in the business, Keiko said it was the fact that it wasn't nearly as glamorous as it looks in the finished product.
"And even the finished product isn't all that glamorous."
Keiko came into the business August 10, 2003 and said in those last three years, she learned that porn wasn't a good place to be for a person who wanted to have a family and raise kids. Asked if she would have taken that advice three years ago, Keiko said she wasn't at the point where she wanted to have kids.
"So I wanted to do this and see what it was like and make my own mistakes," she said. "When I'm done I'll come home and be a homebody."
Keiko wasn't too crazy about the idea, either, that others are profiteering off her videos.
"Shit happens," she said. "Eventually I'll be making money off my writing and my work for whatever company I end up working for." She was also asked if it was possible that a pornographer could be a good person.
"It's possible but highly unlikely," she said. "Because to be a part of this business is childish, juvenile bullshit. Dealing with it wants you to hurt people and be a bad person The way you're treated is that you're scum like everybody else. And eventually you become what you've been acting like."
Keiko didn' think that pornography specialized in ruining lives as much as capitalizing on lives that have already hit rock bottom.
"The market's there for you to take people whose lives have been ruined and make a profit off of it," she continued. "But it's no more dishonorable than selling alcohol and drugs and tobacco and firearms to people that would use them for harmful purposes."
Longsot then added a comment of his own.
"The evening news does nothing but make money off of peoples' ruined lives," he said.
"Good news doesn't sell," Keiko added. "If there's not a body or a fire or several thousand dollars in damages, no one wants to hear about it." Longshot said all forms of media feed off of peoples' misery. Longshot said he finally got the idea to get out of porn when he finally moved out here and became everything he said he wasn't going to be and did everything he wasn't going to do.
"Before I came out here I wasn't really a believer in the rough stuff or the extreme hardcore side of porn," he said. "Then I found myself shooting it. One day I kind of took a look at myself and said you know, I think I can contribute a lot more to society than this.
"But don't get me wrong," he continued. "I'm a big fan of erotica. Period. I think erotic art can be made. I just think that nobody has the creativity or the ability to make it. The people who are currently making it don't have the creativity or ability to make it. Most of them lack that ability so they go for the lowest common denominator because it's what sells. Selling something that truly can appeal to every person or can appeal in a non-degrading way, takes a lot more to sell. With the degrading stuff, it's already sold to that market. That market they're going to buy it and it's flooded with it so it really doesn't require much work. It's already sitting on the shelf waiting for someone to pick it up. The other stuff you actually have to work to market and nobody has the ability to do that. Nobody has the desire to do that, so they don't."
Longhot admits that he basically compromised his values for money.
"It all comes down to the almighty dollar," Longshot said. "And in LA, you need a lot of it. That's why I'm going to where I'm going because I don't need as much of it there."
Longshot's decision to come into the business was one of those things that everyone has to go through and make.
"Do I regret it? No," he says. "Because I feel I've grown and become a better person because of it. I think it's forced me to look inward a lot more than I would have otherwise. It's forced me to look inward further into myself and find my true self a little more by looking at how fake I'd become. It forced me to look at myself and look at what I wanted to be and decide who really wanted to be as a person."
Longshot said pornography could be looked upon as an honorable profession depending what you were doing.
"Ninety percent of them?" he asked. "Hell, no."
Keiko mentioned Forest and Amelia over at blueblood.com.
"They make decent erotica," she said.
"They respect the people they shoot," Longshot added. "They don't treat them like shit." Keiko also said they don't make people do something they wouldn't want to do in the first place.
Longshot wasn't inclined to think that porn would turn anybody into serial killers, for example.
"Those people who are that way, are that way, already," he said. "Music, TV, movies- that's not going to change somebody's behavior. That person who's a sociopath, they're going to be a sociopath no matter what. Unfortunately, we've bred a society of sociopathic, very close to psychopathic behavior."
Keiko said there was one illusion she had that was dispelled by her time in porn.
"None of those girls are really that hot," she said. For his part, Longshot said he found himself more attracted to the real world.
"If anything, it grounded me more," he added. "It made me appreciate the real world a lot more."