Dia posts on www.gloomdolls.com: “Articles like these www.adultfyi.com/read.aspx?ID=11991are so important as a step in returning the voices to women en masse who have chosen or been asked to leave from the site, offering a needed alternative viewpoint. Still, I feel we need a more resolved outlet. In the 30 minutes+ of my interview, I feel this small quote does not fully express the scope of my convictions about Suicide Girls. I do sincerely appreciate the chance this will offer people to start questioning things for themselves, however, before giving money to what I believe is a totally unethical website, which I regret modelling for.
I can’t help but feel that my quote was reduced and underimpactful, especially when the concluding quote is such a loaded one. This is more than just a few girls… and these are not rumors or lies. Rumors or lies about what exactly, Missy? And Sean Suhl might work with women, but many of the women he’s worked for chose to leave, and while Missy may have co-founded SG, there is no one on their corporate filing with any position of power except Sean Suhl. Missy is a front woman, who works hard for the site, but is still under the thumb of her employer, a fact which is frequently covered up.
One thing this article doesn’t mention is that there has been numerous attempts to silence the vocal models, which is why we seek alternative, protected platforms in which to speak. Censorship occurs not just on the site, which is the right of any business, though in context, I feel amoral, but fairly ironic for one which has sought to ally itself publically with but the Free Speech Coalition, to whom I wrote a letter, but on other sites as well, with deletions of some livejournals.com and myspace.com accounts of models and even groups, which I believe SG has complained about. Also, many sites which have tried to offer an alternative opinion on SG, receive Cease & Desist letters from SG.com, sans strong legal basis. One site received such a letter for just linking to the blogs linked to here and a few other blogs, like that of Sicily…
It’s a very thinly veiled attack at those who wish to get the message out that some of us feel so STRONGLY that this site has committed amoral acts against women and Feminism and also, are discovering how powerful the web of lies strives suppress dissident voices with their slick press kit and trigger-happy legal actions against women speaking about their own, valid experiences.
I’d like to clear up the record that there have been around 150-200 models who left the site, over two years, but about 30+ in the month of September alone, during one Mass Exodus of models, particularly those models who had worked on the DVD or the Burlesque Show. It was by far the most models who had ever left at one time.
I’d also like to mention that the article states pay as being a primary reason for models leaving. Let it not be a point of confusion that these models probably should be paid more, especially those working for $200 a night for mainly sold-out venues across the country, however, it’s rarely been cited as a reason for models leaving.
The sentiment of models has varied quite a lot but the resounding theme I hear from the models who recently (the 30+) left are a feeling of disgust at the general Misogynistic tone of the site owner, who has been said to have been especially verbally abusive towards his dancers, calling them, and some other models, very harsh names and berating them, also complaining about an unusually poor standard of treatment, even for this industry. I left this site happily after being asked to leave 3 years ago, though I clung to the allure of the community, when I heard the owner Sean Suhl, state in front of myself and another model that the girls were all a bunch whores, he would never pose for his own website if he was a girl, and that Suicide Girls were some of the stupidest girls on earth. He also said that the only good Suicide Girl model was, as he put it, 1%… a tiny piece in his site… a statement seriously lacking any Punk or Feminist or even Progressive-Minded credibility. Women with strong voices seem to be more likely to wind up archived.
Models are also upset about the recent, thinly disguised attempt to capitalize off of them even after they are removed from the site, by reformatting how the archives are designed to include models who have left in the primary site page, after their top-ranking models left, and their cash cow was threatened.
I note that this article does not mention Sean Suhl has been largely attacked for being at odds with his largely liberally minded community and models for being Neo-Conservative, Left-Wing, and an outspoken hater of Palestinians, something which does not sit well when many they find this out, only compounding the Faux-Feminist complaint. If SG would cut it out with their thinly disguised marketing gimmick, they would certainly be known to be, if nothing else, honest.
Many of their models, members, and worse, Celebtrities who chose to interview for the site are lured in by their Feminist, Punk Rock, and sham-PC Marketing campaign. Few people who have done their research about the dissidence in the ranks would feel comfortable supporting this financially, or worse, allying themselves with such a website. It’s extremely bad publicity, especially as the scandal mounts and comes to light.
I’d like to hear from more of the models involved, and hope they write something of their story in response to this. There is an incredible amount of controversy afoot.
Lastly, Suicide Girls has used the smokescreen of “Blame George Bush” for the recent picture removal from the site. There is a VERY detailed situation going on with that, regarding Sean Suhl filing what I believe to be a bogus claim on a Federal Criminal Computer Hacking allegations:
More information about this court case, and my strong belief that Sean is censoring the site *voluntarily* due to this case, can be read here:Suicide Dia On Live Journal
… starting from the bottom to the top of the journal.
Blaming George Bush is a great distraction tactic to ameliorate members’ concern about the models leaving. Members were starting to catch on, and many have shown incredibly support for them. Pretending to support Freedom of Speech is only a slap.
SG.com will do so much to discredit women who have moved away from the site, even blaming them for “spreading rumors and lies,” but it’s ridiculous that tjat could or would happen when we were only brought together loosely, validated by what is a documented timeline of the same misogynistic hate-speech or behavior directed at, or seen by many models who did not know each other prior to this recent scandal, and as Ms. Caravella said, it’s NOT a group of women working to conspire against Suicide Girls, though we do find it cathartic to have our perspectives match that of other models who have quit.
My mission is simple: to continue to offer an alternative perspective, as I see it, regarding this website, and to advocate the boycott of places of business which people do not feel ethically comfortable with, so do your homework. I stand nothing to gain in this except a tenacious dedication to what I know to be the Truth, and hope someone else will hear and understand this travesty.
I feel that for $4 a month you can buy some t & a OR you can tuck it away along with your integrity, no matter how compelling the community and the glamour may feel for whatever brief and shining moment.
Dia