Porn Valley- Jenna Presley and Sierra Sinn were among the guests on The Wanker Show last week celebrating the Hustler Barely Legal series now being directed by Erica McLean.

The widow of Clive McLean, Erica was also featured on the show, and McLean. McLean mentioned that she was with the Playboy video dept. at the time she met her husband.

“We started working together,” she said. “I met him in 1991- I was doing makeup at the time. We were together for 15 years. We were a team and we loved one another. And we worked well- I let him have his freedom. I let him do and we created. It was great.”

“In 1999 Clive came home and said we’re going to be doing video- Hustler Video,” McLean recalled. He brought some videos from Hustler and they were so bad. This was really bad.” Clive told her that Hustler wanted them to do this new project.

“I’m thinking of how much work was involved,” said Erica. “”I had done some commercials and knew there was a lot involved. We put it together and thought nothing was going to happen- we didn’t even keep records; we didn’t keep papers. We turned everything in.” After Volume #6 the series caught on fire, she noted.

“It was supposed to be every four months, then it got to be every month,” said McLean. “It skyrocketed and became really popular.” McLean said the series was now up to #56.

“Go figure- right?” According to McLean the series stopped at volume 50 with his untimely demise.

“Then what happened- I went to England to visit his [Clive’s] family and came back. I told Larry who better than me. I know every aspect. I know I can do this. Give me a shot at it. I took a shot at it. and I think it’s going pretty good.”

Tyler Faith, who was co-hosting the show that evening, said that women directors portray porn differently from men.

“It’s more beautiful but it’s still sexy and dirty.” Wankus who’s directed the first two movies for Team Tyler Productions said he appreciated that kind of input from women.

“You keep me conscious, now, of what makes it pretty- what makes the woman portrayed in the right light,” he said. “That’s helped me. You keep saying that because other male directors need to hear that.”

McLean agreed: “Women want to be turned on by it too. It works both ways.”

Wankus felt this is something that can’t be taught.

“You have to have the feel- you have to have the vision.” To which McLean said she goes with her gut.”If it feels right and looks right- everything has to blend,” she said. “It has to come out organically and make it smooth and pretty.”

McLean was asked what she saw as the difference between porn girls now and when she first started.

“I think there’s a lot of people who think it’s really easy,” McLean answered. “A lot of girls come in and think that it’s cool to be porn stars. They don’t really take it seriously.”

Wankus said it was trendy now to be a porn star- “screw it, I’ll just fuck a little bit, pay my bills and get out in a few months.”

“A lot of girls think they’re porn stars because they fuck,” Wankus added to the thought heap. “A porn star is an image, and you don’t see it in most of the girls today.”

McLean remembered how she was going to shoot a scene to show the LFP people that she could pull it off and make it look as close to Clive’s style as possible. McLean recalled an instance of a female porn performer taking a taxi to McLean’s ranch.

“That was dedication,” McLean said.

Faith feels you have to take the industry as a profession and add a few brains to your approach with it. Wankus remembered a girl coming up to Faith at PSK asking how she could ever be a porn star like her.

“I’ve tried for so long,” the girl said. Asked what kind of scenes she did, the girl said an interracial gangbang.

“Tyler’s, like, too late,” said Wankus. “You’re never going to be in that area- you don’t choose scenes like that. You’ve got to say no to scenes.” McLean also felt that you have to be into it.

“You can tell if somebody likes sex or has something going for them,” she said. McLean shot a girl recently, noting that her dog probably had more fun.

“I was can you get more animated?” McLean continued. “At the end of it she wanted to make as much money as the next little girl who was savvy with it. My thing is be home and go do another job or do something else. Don’t be doing this.” Wankus has heard girls on his show voice the fact that they weren’t sure porn is what they want to do.

“If you’re not sure- you shouldn’t be doing this,” Wankus continued. “People don’t realize, you shoot that one scene, you’ll be around for 25 years on computers, video and compilations. That one scene- if you want to be a senator, it’s never going to happen.” McLean said girls will come on a shoot messed up from partying and she’ll remind them that the scene is going worldwide.

“You’re going to be seeing yourself like this? I don’t know. Think about it.” McLean was also asked her opinions about 21 being the age norm for a girl coming into porn.

“I’ve seen some girls 18 or 19 that are pretty much together,” she answered. “But I think it depends on the girl.”

Sierra Sinn was the first of the Hustler Barely Legal girls on mike. Sinn, who’s 23, appears in volume #53. Turns out Sinn was the girl who took the taxi to see McLean.

“I was so excited,” she said. “I was honored- being part of it is a blessing.” Sinn was stripper for 4 1/2 years before she got into porn. She wanted to take the next step because felt she was going nowhere in her stripping occupation. She was dancing at a place called Club Erotica. “After 4 1/2 years I was like, fuck this.” Sinn, who’s from Pittsburgh, was urged to put some pictures on Myspace as well as onemodelplace.

“An agent contacted me and said they’d fly me out to this big house,” she continued. Sinn remembered her contact being someone called Nick. Asked if she fell for the compliance video scam, Sinn said it was more like a prostitution situation.

“I’m thinking, I didn’t come out here for that,” she said. Eventually she got a couple of bookings but ran off from that agent. Then she met Lauren Phoenix.

“She became my agent and taught me how to do anal. It started with enemas, then we went into relaxing,” Sinn laughed. “We did dildos and she showed me how to do enemas. She explained it to me- it was nice to have that.” Sinn mentioned that while she was no longer with Phoenix’s agency she still has a lot of respect for her. “She’s a great person.”

Asked if she had anal orgasms, Sinn claimed all the time. “I don’t really have sex as much as I’d like to in my personal life,” she added. “I have to save myself for the camera, I feel.”

McLean explained that Sierra had sent an e-mail to Clive and that’s how they met.

“I opened it up- I said I’m Erica McLean. I want to meet you. That’s how it was.” McLean said it was pretty crazy that Sinn came out there from Canoga Park in a taxi because McLean lives way in the sticks.

“I always think about these girls coming up there- I wonder what they think?” Wankus used Sinn’s story as an illustration that porn performers have to make the effort to network.

“People don’t realize how important that is.” Sinn said she loved McLean. “She’s a sweetheart.” Wankus was curious what a cab ride was one-way for Sinn. She said it was $100.

Kelsey Michaels and Jenna Presley then came on the couch after the break. Michaels was in Volume 53 and Presley was in volume 55. Asked how she was cast in the movie, Michaels said McLean found got picture. McLean thought Michaels was adorable. Michaels said was excited because she was new to the business and this was a Hustler shoot.

“You’re kind of used to the directors on set yelling at you,” said Michaels who thought that McLean was much different. “She was really cool and really nice.” Wankus said he never got the thing of directors yelling at talent, especially on porn sets. “You’re trying to get the best out of somebody- why would you scream at them? If they suck, give them a kill fee and send them home. But some people have to be assholes. It’s their own little, insecure small penis complex.” Michaels said she would love to shoot again with McLean, and McLean said she would also be shooting more than the Barely Legal series.

“I’m getting my feet wet.”

Presley was also very excited about shooting her first scene for Hustler.

“Erica and her crew-honestly- are the greatest group I’ve ever met. They’re awesome. Everyone’s very sweet, very respectful. I got treated like a princess and I like that.” Asked what kind of scene she did, Presley said she did a scene with Jerry. Wankus asked if that was the guy who owned a deli. Presley then went on a rant about Jerry’s minimum delivery fee of $30, that her roommate orders $65 worth of food and Presley orders $4. Wankus laughed about Presley taking the Jerry question way too far.

Wankus then asked Presley about her feud with Jenna Jameson [a matter which has been resolved]. Presley said it had been cleared up [just prior to the show] but Wankus still wanted the details. Presley related the fact how during an interview with Adultfyi she joked about how glamorous she was that she pisses glitter.

“Apparently one of Jenna Jameson’s people came across it and decided to make it her quote. It’s under Myspace-it has her picture,” Presley said. Presley then went on to recite chapter and verse from her e-mail war with Jameson’s husband. Wankus wondered whether the whole issue was worth a fight to begin with by calling Jameson a “quote stealer”. As far as she was concerned, Presley said it was.

“It was the fact that I said that quote- my name is under that quote so don’t write it as your own quote. Give me fucking credit.” Wankus again hastened to point out that Jameson was queen of the porn world and doing great p.r. things for the industry, that maybe Presley should have handled it differently.

“Do you want the queen of porn mad at you?” he laughed. Presley said it was late at night and she was pissed. Wankus said the problem with the industry- and he’s guilty of it as well- is that people jump on petty issues.

“We just lash out publicly- later we’re like what the fuck were we thinking?” Wankus was of the opinion that Jameson was “cool as fuck”. Presley then read an e-mail that he just got from Jameson to the effect that she was really surprised by Presley’s anger and that she was going to take the quote down. Jameson explained that a friend of hers built the page a few days previous and that she had never heard the quote prior and was sorry that it upset Presley so much.