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The cows have come home. Can you hear the mooing? Can you smell the patties in the meadow?
Rob Black devoted his entire show, www.therobblackshow.com Tuesday to the John Stagliano lawsuit and fashioned a lynch rope with the quotes Karen Stagliano gave both AVN and XBiz.
As anyone with experience in lawsuits will tell you, mumâs the word, but Karen Stagliano made comment after idiotic comment that could sink Evil Angel before they even get to the deposition.
Black compared the Staglianos to the Jack Nicholson character in A Few Good Men. It’s Nicholson who sinks a court martial involving two Marines when the lawyer [Tom Cruise] knows what buttons to push. Itâs a little thing called arrogance, and Black pointed to the fact that Karen Staglianoâs comments were brimming with it.
âBasically sheâs saying I can do whatever I want in the interest of national security, fuck you. Thatâs John Stagliano,â Black pointed out.
âI told you this was coming and no one listened to me,â added Black.
âThese are the biblical times, the end times.â
Black said heâs never seen anyone in the midst of a lawsuit/criminal complaint, in the middle of the âshit storm about the condom debateâ reach over the top the way Karen Stagliano did.
âAVN and XBiz couldnât cover it up; itâs a real story,â said Black.
âIt puts everything on the table in a legal setting, possibly in a criminal setting. Itâs no longer crazy Rob Black being a lunatic. Now it becomes a real debate. Now it becomes a debate for The Huffington Post.
âEven better you have Karen Stagliano- I guess sheâs the lawyer because John Stagliano hasnât hasnât spoken about this issue. And with the lawsuit, Karen Stagliano admits everything John did but says it wasnât that bad. Oh my God- who let you speak!!?? Itâs really unfathomable.
âKaren Stagliano, you are awesome. It just shows you the smugness and the attitude. They feel they are Jack Nicholson, and Stagliano wants to say fuck you- I donât have to abide by the rules and we are above you all, that my HIV is so special that itâs undetectable.â [Which is exactly what Karen Stagliano said.]
âSeriously, the arrogance is amazing,â Black continued. âKatie Summersâ attorney is going, wow, this is pretty easy. You have people saying, yeah, weâre guilty but we donât have to tell you anything. Itâs not like we put our penis in you.
âThis is Jerry Sanduskyâs wife defending Jerry Sandusky,â Black contends.
ââI would wrestle on a mat and take showers with young boys.â What Karen Stagliano is saying is so awesome. Thatâs like Sandusky saying I only showered with young boys.
Karen Stagliano told AVN, “I believe that there is not a substantial case. John did not do anything that endangered anyone whatsoever, especially not this girl [Katie Summers]. I’ve seen the scene. There was no sexual contact that would do anything to warrant him having to have informed her of his condition.”
Under those guidelines, Black took that to mean that Staglianoâs bare hands in Chanel Prestonâs asshole didnât warrant full disclosure, neither did his scene with A.J. Applegate, his hand in her ass and in vagina deserve that attention.
âThe definition in Karen Staglianoâs head is John has to take genital contact,â said Black.
âIf you go by what Karen Stagliano is saying this is unfathomable. She is saying what a child molester would say, âsleeping in bed with a young boy is not wrong. I didnât touch his genitals.â
Black also made a big deal out of Karen Stagliano saying that John Stagliano has been HIV undetectable for the last 15 years.
âBasically sheâs saying heâs been cured of HIV because it isnât in his blood, but he continues to take the medicine as a precaution. âIâm cured but let me take the medicine as a precaution.â
âModern day technology is supposed to suppress the HIV virus. Stop taking the the medicine for a year and letâs see if HIV is then detectable in his blood.
“I canât believe these statements. Youâre big fucking mouth, Karen Stagliano, since youâre this spokesman- I canât believe this genius John Stagliano would have his wife make statements in a very, very, very serious situation.
âAny good lawyer will make a $50M case out of this,â said Black.
âIf you donât see the grander picture I donât even fathom it. The best part is that Karen Stagliano throws out insults. Itâs amazing. And Karen Stagliano says that John Stagliano is not a sex performer.
âItâs unfathomable. You have Karen Stagliano deciding what is a sex performer and who needs to have a test- if this does not show you the arrogance, oh my God, for people to be this fucked up.â
âThe attorneys involved in the Katie Summers suit, their penises must be so erect by now. But you have the legions of sheep that follow âStagsâ.
âBut Stags doesnât even have the wherewithal to get Gelbard, a scholarly lawyer; Cambria, a monster titan; H. Louis Sirkin, a gentle giant. Nope. They went with Karen Stagliano.
âThereâs not one thing untrue in any of the statements in the lawsuit,â Black stated.
âFirst off John Stagliano doesnât have the balls to state anything. He has his wife do it which is disgusting. They are deciding what they feel Katie Summers needs to know. How is that for arrogance?”
Black again went off on Karen Staglianoâs comment to AVN, “I believe that there is not a substantial case. John did not do anything that endangered anyone whatsoever, especially not this girl. I’ve seen the scene. There was no sexual contact that would do anything to warrant him having to have informed her of his condition.”
âKaren decides who gets put at medical risk or not, and she lies. If you watch the raw tape I beg to differ about sexual contact. Karenâs stance is no sexual genital contact, so he doesnât have to tell Katie Summers heâs got HIV? No sexual contact? You mean I can do that to somebodyâs mom? Youâre definitely a good lawyer, Karen.
âKaren, you opened up the question of what would warrant you informing anybody that heâs HIV positive and doesnât have a test. He had no genital contact? Youâre saying fingers are not contacting if they touch genitals?
“Look up the definition of sexual contact. I know that in your world, we feel we live this life that we can do whatever we want. You guys got hit with a sexual lawsuit years ago. Look up the lawsuits with Chris Norman- sexual harassment. This is indicative of a company who tells you, we determine what sexual harassment is.
âKaren Stagliano, can Marc Wallice perform again? Can Darren James perform again? This is unconscionable.â
Black said if you substituted his name in any of Karen Staglianoâs statements heâs have been carted away in handcuffs. Black also noted that industry threw TT Boy under the bus over workmenâs comp issues.
âIf this were TT Boy, the business would have burned his building down.â
âThere has to be a mass conspiracy to bury this business, because, in Karen Staglianoâs theory John Stagliano can have sex again. Because he has super blood. When he wears that Dracula outfit [Stagliano wore such an outfit at an AVN show], he made a deal with somebody because according to Karen Stagliano heâs been HIV undetectable for 15 years.
âKaren Staglianoâs statements are going to be used in a court of law,â said Black.
âKaren is saying John Staglianoâs HIV was diagnosed, and his doctor said you have HIV; but your life ainât over yet. Magic Johnson lives a happy and a safe life. You can take drugs that will lower your virus load. Itâs a good thing youâre a billionaire because you can take the medicine Magic Johnson has, and in years they will perfect the medicine.
âBut you canât go around and have sex with people. You have a life changing disease, but youâll live a happy and healthy life, but donât stop the meds. You stop, you will get sick. Maybe when they have flying cars, youâll have a shot that gets rid of HIV. I would imagine thatâs what your doctor would tell you.”
Black said heâs not real sure where Karen Stagliano comes up with saying that Katie Summers didnât have to be informed of Staglianoâs HIV status.
âI guess the kingmaker doesnât have to do the things that would give people choice,â Black surmised.
âBut doesnât everybody want to know when theyâre being put in danger? People get in trouble for having loaded weapons in their house and the son shoots the daughter.â
Black said if Karen Staglianoâs statements were applied in any normal political context there would be mass outrage.
âSheâs saying John Stagliano doesnât have HIV and can start performing in the business. Does he have it, or does he not? Which is it? Iâm lost.
âAll of her statements are lies, and I canât believe theyâre letting her talk like this. This is an elitist, âI am rich, youâre not, youâre some piece of shit talent statement. Nothing you say merits anything.â
Black said in a whole litany of conversation over lunch with Stagliano and Summers, the subject of HIV never came up.
âNobody said weâd like to disclose informationâŠI got it and blah, blah, blah…if youâre cool with that. According to Karen Stagliano this girl was just touched but you only catch disease through bodily fluids. But in restaurants, where thereâs no sexual contact, youâre required to wear rubber gloves.
âKaren Stagliano makes a whole assumption they donât have to tell anyone because they decide whatâs safe and not and weâre not even sure if he has HIV.
âAlan Gelbard, if Stagliano is your hero like youâve said, why would you let his wife make these outrageous statements?â Black asked.
âI am perplexed. What do you think a judge will say when they read these statements? It defies logic.â
âMaybe itâs not about money,â said Black about the lawsuit. âMaybe Katie Summer is saying, âThis is going to be my business and Iâm not going to act like a dumb little hooker.â
âJohn Stagliano with a speculum took Chanel Preston and spread apart her asshole and her vagina and Stagliano sticks his hand inside her. Did that warrant him telling her he had HIV?
“Thatâs wrong but it was okay with Katie Summers. This is Jerry Sanduskyâs wife saying I knew they were wrestling in the basement. I knew he made Stretch Class, but it doesnât warrant him telling dumb little cunts that he has HIV. There was no sexual touching of her genitals so what do you think about that?
âWith AJ Applegate he had his hand inside her, but according to Karen Stagliano what John did with Katie Summers didnât warrant him having to tell her he had HIV- none of that was sexual contact with the dildos and the clothespins.
âDoes that mean the contact he had with A.J. Applegate did warrant him informing her, and if thatâs the case, will A.J. Applegate sit on a stand in a court of law that John Stagliano informed her he was HIV and that he would insert his hand in her ass, and she was alright with that? If putting your hand in a girlâs vagina isnât sexual contact, I donât know what is.
âBut according to Karen Stagliano he doesnât have to tell you. Jerry Sanduskyâs wife said âI didnât know he was fucking those kids; they were just wrestling.â When Michael Jackson slept in a bed with a 15 year-old boy is that not sexual contact?
âAnd if you have a disease that can be transmitted in any form whatsoever, and you are engaged in sexual contact, I think the courts would show gaping open a girlâs asshole with your fingers and your cuticles being centimeters away from a girlâs rectum, is that what you call, Karen Stagliano, not sexual activity, and not putting anybody at any type of medical risk? Are you out of your fucking minds?
âCan we start a line where Marc Wallis is spreading girlsâ assholes apart? Darren James fucked a trannie like John Stagliano- can he start a line like that and would people be outraged if he did that then went out to the press and said we donât have to tell you people shit?
ââWeâll deem what is risky behavior, and we know better for your safety and health than you do stupid porn girl, porn guy. Hahhahaha youâre all losers.â Itâs amazing.
âYou think John Staglianoâs the only with this attitude? But this is the culture of the business. This seems to be alright in our business that people like John Stagliano are able to decide the health and safety of the performers and what heâs allowed to do with you all.
âJohn Stagliano who owns Evil Angel, that is his attitude. So what is the other big wigsâ attitude? What does Koretsky do? What does Vivid do? What does Derek Hay do, and you have to work in a fucked up Porno Dan scene with him for $500.
âEvil Angelâs attitude is we will decide who knows or doesnât know who has a disease.â
Black concluded from Karen Staglianoâs comments that John Stagliano must be the only one in America to have a special HIV.
âThe doctors said, âIt ainât in your blood, babe, but take the medicine just as a precaution.â
âTake the precaution to take an HIV immune booster, but whereâs the waiver that states the performers were informed that John Stagliano is HIV?â
Black said in four paragraphs Karen Stagliano sunk the ship.
âYou as the 1% are destroying this business- you take all the precautions that John Staglianoâs health and safety are protected for his wife and employees and children, but John Stagliano and Evil Angel canât take the same precautions with the talent in this business to inform them and divulge to them to let them take precautions?
âDid you let Chanel Preston or Jessie Rogers take precautions in Stretch Class? Whereâs their precaution that their health and peace of mind is intact? They take the precautions that Stagliano lives forever, but fuck everybody else.
âYou sonsofbitches are disgusting,â Black concluded. âThey donât care. That is their exact attitude.
âThe things that are going to unfold the next month is going to change the business,â he predicted.
