Porn Valley- Steven St. Croix and Taryn Thomas continued the acerbic cross fire on their KSEX show The Saint & The Sinner. On Tuesday night Lexi Lamour got in the middle of some of it during the first hour; while Justin Syder got in on the action during the second half.

Thomas figured that St. Croix was the saint because he was “a feature-y guy” while she’s the gonzo whore, and, therefore, the sinner. St. Croix wanted to correct the misconception that he was some prima donna who only did features.

“I prefer hot sex with hot chicks,” he said. “If it’s gonzo, fine. So be it. If I only did features I’d be fuckin broke because there’s not that many features shot. Thomas asked him what’s been the nastiest, raunchiest thing he’s done in porn. St. Croix said that was a good question.

“Raunchy for me would be something that I don’t normally do and in a moment’s time I did it,” he answered. “I love feet sucking. I love eating ass. I love watching chicks do ass to mouth. I love going from one girl to the other. I love getting dirty. Raunchy for me would be, maybe, if I shit on a girl.”

Lamour said the raunchiest thing she’s done was a scene with Tory Lane for Stormy Daniels. “I stuck a speculum in her ass and split her open. That was the nastiest thing I ever did. To me that’s nasty.”

“For me nasty is vegetables or poultry,” St. Croix commented dryly. “The nastiest thing I saw was Debi Diamond who was this phenomenal performer- she did a scene covered in motor oil and got fucked in the ass. A lot of companies have been doing that since but she broke the mold.”

Thinking on the question further, St. Croix said raunchy for him would also have to be sex in public places. St. Croix remembered a time he was having dinner at a well-known restaurant in West Hollywood, Mirabelle.

“I was with my girlfriend at the time and I made her go into the female bathroom and basically made her wait there for me,” he said. “I bent her over the sink, I lifted up her skirt and fucked her. I came inside her and I told her to force it out and make it run down her leg. I wanted her to walk out of the bathroom with it running down her leg wearing a short skirt and heels. She did it. That is raunchy. I like sex in public places where you can get caught.”

St. Croix says he also gets hot to think that a couple from Iowa on their first vacation might be horrified by a sight like that.

Thomas said while she likes being choked, she wouldn’t have anything run down her legs.

“I don’t do cream pies, period,” she said, although noting she’s done some on camera and has regretted it.

“But I like to be beat.”

St. Croix then asked her if she enjoys throat-fucking.

“When I’m face-fucked,” Thomas replied. “If I guy doesn’t do it hard enough, I have to do it harder.”

Thomas said she also likes to spit in guys’ faces and tends to breaks and took one when she first started doing anal..

“I was booked four months in advance until October,” she observed. “When I was over at LA Direct I worked every single day but it was too much. I couldn’t handle it.” But Thomas said she’s back now with Spiegler. “I like to work two or three times a week. I do intense anal scenes and it’s just too hard. My work is not slowing down at all.”

Thomas pointed to the example of Jayna Oso.

“She was gone for so long- and now she’s back and that girl’s booked five months out right now,” said Thomas. “She took a year off and was in the business four years prior doing anals, d.p.’s., interracial, everything. If you’re good, you’re good and that’s the way it is.”

St. Croix says he likes to vacation out of the country to get a fresh perspective on life.

“We got it good and I always encourage the guys and the girls to take time off and get out of the country- that’ll keep you fresh and your attitude good,” he said. “Then you won’t walk off sets like I do.”

St. Croix then introduced Justin Syder.

“I like the play on words,” said St. Croix, kidding about a girl he once knew in the business whose name was Fanny O’Rear. “She was very popular during the Summer of ’82.”

Commenting on Syder’s tats, St. Croix asked if he was going to develop a “sleeve.” Sooner or later, replied Syder.

“The guy who did these used premium ink and they’re five years old- they held together really well.” St. Croix asked if he put sunblock on his tats and Syder said, no, although he goes out in the sun all the time. Thomas started talking about the tattoo on the back of her neck and St. Croix told her it wasn’t a tattoo but a barcode. Thomas then threatened to turn St. Croix into Kurt Lockwood in a matter of seconds.

Syder, who’s with LA Direct, has been in the business about a year and a half, according to him, but isn’t the Justin Sider who appeared in The Goddaughter 5, www.arrowfreedom.com, for Arrow in 2000.

“I met one of the girls [Jezabelle Bond] in the business and started dating real serious,” he said explaining how he got into the business. “She kind of got me in there. I started working for some of the major people. And it snowballed from there. She was on her way to New York to do a girl-girl thing and I was on the same plane with her going out to see one of Tito Ortiz’s fights in Atlantic City and work his corner. It kind of just happened. I was in New York City for a week, had some spare time before the fight, we hooked up and pretty much didn’t leave the hotel room for awhile. The rest is history.”

Never mentioning Bond by name, St. Croix said she said something to him about knowing Tito Ortiz.

St. Croix asked Syder if he was comfortable knowing she was in the business.

“I’m pretty comfortable with my sexuality,” said Syder. “I didn’t make it a big deal. She was, like, if I’m going to be in the business, you want to be in it too? It kind of happened from there.”

“You got pimped,” laughed St. Croix. Syder noted that he was a pro boxer before he got into porn.

“She kind of brought you into the circle of some porn people she was working with,” St. Croix continued. Syder said he’s worked for Club Jenna and VCA and liked the people he was working for.

“I kind of rolled with it,” he said. “I was at the end of my career as a fighter so it was an easy transition- easy enough- because she was really beautiful and easy to work with.” Syder said he then started working with other girls and didn’t make any bones about it. Syder said she was always up for watching porn but never made career commitments to that in his mind.

St. Croix said he’d look at Playboy magazines in the Seventies and Eighties but it wasn’t until he started watching porn that he thought of doing it.

“But it was a passing thought- it was that I wanted to get laid more,” he said. Thomas brought up the fact about trying to have more of a civilian life and St. Croix said it was hard because most of your time is spent on sets. Thomas said she doesn’t hang out with porn people except maybe Spiegler her family and close friends.

“There’s porn people and there’s scientologists,” St. Croix observed. “You get kind of sick of the porn people.” St. Croix said he’s thinned out the herd of what he calls friends and considers acquaintances because he found out that people were either too judgmental about porn or wanted him too hook them up with girls. Syder said he gets that all the time and St. Croix recalled an instance of a guy getting angry with him for being selfish about not bringing girls home in a van from the set.

“Go out and meet chicks,” he advised the guy. “Go to the Cheesecake Factory.” Thomas said people outside of porn get the impression that the girls are spread eagled all the time.

“Oh she’ll probably blow me in the bathroom at the Viper Room,” added St. Croix. Thomas said she rarely has sex off camera and when she does, it isn’t worth it.

“I decided to cut it out of my life.”

From what she was saying, St. Croix asked Thomas if she was less attracted to guys outside the business. Thomas said when she first got into the business she still had a boyfriend.

“But we broke up- after we broke up I was, like, I can’t date a guy that isn’t into porno any more,” she said. “Now after being in porno for a year, I’d rather be with a civilian over a porno guy. A civilian guy can have feelings and a relationship. And there’s emotions and stuff like that.” Thomas explained that too many people in porn are jaded.

“I don’t want to shit where I eat too much,” she said.

Asked what he learned from his porn relationship, Syder said he learned a lot of things not to do and that getting to know someone for a long time is important.

“Maybe I didn’t have enough of that in my relationship with her- you live and you learn and that’s the way it kind of went.” Syder also cited patience along with time spent together as being very important.

“I enjoy civilian sex, I think,” he continued. St. Croix noted that Syder is from a place that has become renowned in the last few years as a haunt of fighters- Huntington Beach, Ca. St. Croix said every time he’d go there there’d be this energy.

“I was on edge like I had to watch my back,” he said. Syder said guys in training are not the ones going out and picking fights.

“Every weekend in Huntington Beach you have a plethora of people coming from out of town,” Syder observed. St. Croix wondered when was the last time a porn star used the word plethora in conversation. Syder explained that’s because he’s a porn actor and not a porn star. Getting back to the weekend thing, Syder says there’s friction between the locals and the out of towners.

“There’s kind of an attitude. But it’s not fighters that start the fights.”

St. Croix kept calling it an energy on edge and that he was uncomfortable with it.

“I got the feeling that if you’re not a local, watch your back.’

St. Croix talked about a big UFC championship fight coming up and Syder said he looks forward to every fight.

“There’s so much going on.” Thomas said she’d like to see a fight where someone dies and St. Croix advised her to watch Blood Sport and write an essay on it. Syder said it’s rare that something like that would happen these days.

“They have good referees; they have good rules. The gloves are better built than the old days.” Syder said he’s heard of one organization called Felony Fights where they get old convicts and street trash and threw them in the gutter and have them go off..

“You see a lot of silly stuff.” St. Croix compared that to the beloved Bum Fights. As far as he’s concerned, Syder said he was more into the skill, learning new moves and increasing his knowledge. Thomas was making wet spots and Syder said he heard that Thomas was over at the Hustler Studio a couple of weeks ago doing an anal scene. Thomas sounded surprised to learn this.

“I was sitting there waiting for my scene to start and you were going off in the other room- we couldn’t talk it was so fucking loud,” Syder commented. Thomas started making with the comments again and St. Croix referred to her as a typical American chick.

“I’m not,” Thomas answered sharply claiming she was born in Italy.

“You were born at the exit, the rest stop at 14A in Jersey,” St. Croix told her. “Ravioli yourself in the ass.”