> posted on www.lukeford.com: Bella's Models Writes: Justine Joli is a liar! Here's the truth...she has been under the radar for some time working for a guy from San Francisco who has been pushing her on me but I wasn't getting any response from my VIP clients (those that view the members portfolio). I know several gentlemen who have met her as an escort through this guy in San Francisco as well as independently. Recently she popped up on Body Miracle's website so the guy in San Francisco asked me to put her in the public portfolio to see what kind of response I'd get. For the record the response I got was ZERO! I represent over 200 famous ladies. Seriously, if I was going to pretend a girl was available to drive traffic or whatever she is claiming it would be someone waaaay hotter than Justine Joli! Like Taylor Rain baby! : )
My guess is she was cool with the whole thing until she got all of the negative attention and now she's trying to backpeddle. I wonder if she'll stay on Body Miracle's website. As for us, it's her loss.
>frankenswine comments on www.xxxporntalk.com: Yeah i remember some story on Pornogossip.com about her boyfriend pimping her out at some party, so it doesn't surprise me. As far as her trying to deny it she isn't even cute. Her boyfriend is that fuckin dork looking guy Dcypher. That guy is another winner.. or should I say weiner.
>AC Cream 2.0 posts on XPT: Justine and Dcypher have been pimping/turning out girls into escorting for a while, so it was only a matter of time before Justine started doing it.
Does anybody else find it funny like I do that girls that don't do guys on film would escort? I can't seem to understand the logic or the thought process involved. Could it be because they think their boyfriends won't find out they are doing other guys? Don't they realize with the internet escorting will be public MUCH quicker than doing a scene which could take 6 months or more to get out? Do THEY think escorting "privately" is less "bad" than doing b/g on film? I mean my logic says doing a b/g scene would be much easier than sleeping with an "escort guy". I mean for 1 thing there is an at least somewhat controled group of guys working on film that are tested and things. There are no AIM tests with escorting. I know condoms are used, but condoms aren't 100%. Not only that, but they can break as well. If the condom an AIDS infected "escort guy" uses breaks as he's cumming. Uuuummmm 2+2=4 kids.
Let me be clear. I don't want girls that escort to be pissed at me. I'm not knocking your hustle. Make your money and all that jazz. I just can't see the logic of a g/g only girl escorting.
> Holly Randall posts: Apparently my copyright infringement guy has been trying to get them [bella's Models] to take down our pics for a while now. And now I have to get involved, which really pisses me off. And Justine is a good friend of mine and NOT a hooker. This is what sucks about being a model-- any asshole can take your photos, put it up on a site with bogus claims, and everyone believes what they see and read. Fuckers.
> AC Cream 2.0 responds: Holly, This question isn't meant to be disrespectful. I'm asking it because I'm honestly curious. Aren't the girls allowed to use your photos of them? I know they use your pics on their personal websites right? Isn't their escorting endeavors their personal use as well? Just curious as I said. Not disrespectful.
> Holly Randall writes: The girls are not allowed to use our photos of them unless it's a shoot specifically done for a content exchange, which I only do occasionally. Even then they are only allowed to post the images on their own personal site; they cannot license to a third party. And for a second time, Justine has nothing to do with this site and she's not thrilled about the situation, to say the least.
> Gen Padova writes: I didn't think Justine would take that route at all. The woman has more class than most of us porn chicks combined. I had this same issue with Exotica 2000... guess where they are now? haha they don't exist. Maybe Bella Models is next. GO GET 'EM HOLLY!!! FUCK 'EM IN THEIR EYE HOLES!!!
> Dan G writes: No disrespect intended Holly, but aren't you being just a little bit trusting here? If (as I understand to be the case) Bella Models is just a reincarnation of Nici's Girls, then it stands to reason that they will have a) the same sort of clientele and b) the same sort of employees...meaning guys who are willing to cough up $20-30,000 (and more) to spend a weekend poking their favourite Playboy Playmate or Penthouse Pet.
Here are a couple of links for you:
http://www.dazereader.com/24000731.htm
http://adultfyi.com/read.aspx?ID=7085
I've no doubt Luke has plenty of info on it as well.
Using pictures of a girl they don't have will simply lose them valuable clients...it's not the same as some plain/frugly chick putting up pics of say, Kyla Cole or Aria Giovanni up on Craigslist and saying 'This is me!'.
When I read the initial post on this thread, my response wasn't 'That can't be true!' but more like 'Yeah, it figures'. That should tell you everything you need to know.
Can I just add that I agree with AC Cream's point about g/g only on-camera but escort off-camera girls, and thus am now taking the relevant action to remedy this condition.
> AC Cream adds: Wow!
A pornstar that can act! Justine Jolie breaks the mold. She has people believing she is "classy" and had nothing to do with Bella Models. If Justine is gonna claim this isn't legit I think I know how it all went down....
Justine and Dcypher had a fight and Dcypher called Justine a WHORE! Justine then came to the thought "if he thinks I'm a whore then let me be 1! That will teach him!" I bet the reason she is denying it now is Dcypher came crawling back crying begging her to forgive him for his insult. The question is did Justine actually do something? or was it a big show for Dcypher to get his attention.
"Aint we lucky we got em.......GOOOOOOOOD TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMES!"
>Big Daddy Crunk writes: I thought D Cypher spent his time banging fat female sex columnists for shitty New York weeklies ...
>nycbigtyme writes: Justine Jolie (who u swear isn't a hooker) is also listed on body miracles website www.bodymiracle.com? Maybe your friend needs to reveal some secrets shes been keeping from you...
http://www.bodymiracle.com/default5.html
> holly randall adds: I just spoke to Justine and she confirmed once again that she is not an escort and she's severly pissed about this situation. Call me crazy, but I choose to believe a good friend of several years over a website that I've never heard of before that is stealing my images.
> Dan G responds: Holly, do you also believe that all of the other girls listed on Body Miracle aren't hookers/escorts as well? That they're all victims of hooker identity theft?
Most of the girls on that list are known to do 'privates' on the side...it's no secret.
I'm just surprised that someone of your intelligence is allowing themself to be so easily taken in on this. Both of the sites she is listed on are known to be 'legit', it's not some typical 'bait and switch' style scheme as both Chico and I have alluded to, but rather what you see is what you get.
I always work to the axiom that 'Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is a pattern'...let me just say it is one hell of a coincidence that she should turn up on not one but two legit escort websites at the same time. Too much of a coincidence, in fact.
If you were running a high-ticket escort agency, would you put up a listing for a girl you don't have and risk losing clients to the competition? Would you put up a listing for a girl you had never met and discussed business with (bearing in mind that without a face-to-face meeting, it could be either some fat ugly chick trying to pass themselves off as Playmate of the Month or perhaps a jealous ex-boyfriend trying to ruin a particular girl's reputation)?
No, you wouldn't, and I don't think these guys have done it either. As for the theft of your photos...why haven't they got pics of Aria Giovanni up on their site, or some other models you've shot that are hotter/more popular than Justine (no offence intended to her by that remark)? Because they don't work that way. Whilst it is undeniable that they are using your images without your permission, I doubt they went out and stole your images, moreover they had them provided to them by the person in question.
Don't let your heart govern your head on this one, otherwise you could well end up with egg on your face.
In closing, let us remember above all the XPT motto: 'Whores Lie'
>GhostofDaBurglar writes 1) I am now actively interested in this thread, as i wait to leave, I hope Holly says/types "Fuck" or "Fuckers", or use "Fucking" in her next post.
2) Regarding the "Bait and Swtich" tactic of Escort Agencies.....it is unfortunately all too common, which is why i have not used an Agency in a long time. It's easy to understand though from the business' perspective, and you have to remember the nature of the business itself...customers (johns) do not have any recourse except to NOT use a agency again if they are truly dissatisfied, and most of them are embarrassed or ashamed somewhat of the whole sordid experience...very few Johns are like me who throw shame, self respect and money out the window when I reach the crisis point of having a raging hardon and HAVING to stick it into some semi-attractive (or better) human female orifice. It goes like this:
A SUPER HORNY/LONELY guy calls the agency number and a sexy female voice immediately disarms him with a "How are you baby? What can I do for you?" So now the super horny, lonely guy asks for specifically the star of his choice that he saw listed so enticingly using the one and only, Most Erotic Woman in Porn, Holly Randall's pictures. The sexy voice says, "oh I am sorry baby, she's not available BUT I do have a really gorgeous sexy Blond/Redhead/Brunette named Drea (or Vanessa, or Veronica, or Samantha...nothing too far fetched like "Desdemona" or "Fairuza") Who can be out to see you in 45 MINUTES or less and for a little less than our normal fee."
They are banking on the fact that the guy probably is sitting nude on his hotel bed, OR...at his desk in his office playing with his hardon through his dress pants and NOT doing the charts for the staff meeting, OR... in his home on the couch that he watches 20/20 with his wife, and that he is playing with himself while talking on the phone and will invariably say "YES" to the sexy Voice's suggestion of a subsitution. It's all about Impulse buying and not letting go until you have the sale. A GREAT salesperson like Gia Jordan would know exactly what i am talking about.
Personally, the ENTIRE concept of paying through the nose for Porn star outcall experiences baffles me when even MORE gorgeous, REAL, non-infamous women are avalable at normally exorbitant escort fees (Big difference between paying 750 bucks an hour for a complete goddess and 1500 bucks an hour for a shot out porn chick doused in makeup when she appears on film. Like I have said many times, TRULY beautiful, gorgeous women DO NOT need to do Porn....)
Besides, Using a sweet, wonderful photographer like Holly Randall and taking advantage of her work to perpetrate such frauds upon unsuspecting perverts and desperate people is despicable. Me, i'd rather engage in the probably fruitless, but still exhilrating pursuit of trying to get HOLLY RANDALL herself to come to my Hotel room and play the On-demand Video Games like Super Mario Brothers ... I would not need to have sex with her, just watching Holly work the video game controls and joystick would be stimulating enough for me. I wonder what Holly would charge me for that???
