Porn Valley- I keep hearing the same story about how Jason [Josh] Horn busts his ass, works hard, keeps Xotic Studios running smoothly. And then he finds some time to be married to Nicki Hunter and work in a few sex scenes. I spoke to Horn Wednesday afternoon. "I never sleep," laughs Horn. "The thing about having a studio is that it's 24/7. On the days you're not shooting you've got to clean up the mess from guys like Tom Zupko." Horn's thinking of the last time Zupko was in his studios. Like an oil slick, refinery spills everywhere. And Horn was involved in one of those scenes recently. http://adultfyi.com/read.aspx?ID=8974

"When we first started in the business, nobody knew who I was," says Horn. "I was the guy with the ponytail who follows Nicki Hunter around. But being here everyday meeting all the different directors and actors and stuff, I'm actually like a human being now. There are a couple of people who know Nicki Hunter as Josh's wife. That's kind of interesting. It's a lot of work but I have other partners here."

Asked if he got tagged often as being a suitcase pimp and treated in kind, Horn says most people were pretty good about it. "It all depends on the attitude of the husband or boyfriend," he states. "A lot of guys come in here and think they know everybody and they have all the connections and try to be their girlfriend or wife's agent. Maybe if you are an agent you can be the agent of your girlfriend. But you just can't assume. A lot of guys, they get real protective and every husband and boyfriend thinks that their wife is better than everybody else. There are good performers and there are bad performers. And some girls do rise above. But just because you think she's the sexiest girl out there doesn't mean everybody does. A lot of these guys do it to themselves. Nobody really treated me disrespectfully because I didn't treat them disrespectfully."

I ask Horn for his perspective on the scene he did for Zupko. "It was long," he says. "But it was worth it. It was a lot of fun. I like to do stuff for Tom because it's not the same old thing for me. Of course working with Nicole is always the best. I always perform the best when I'm with Nicole just because I'm comfortable with her. I've heard this rumor that a lot of married couples don't work well together. I've seen it with a few married couples. But for me, I would do every scene with Nicole if I could. I'm comfortable with her. She's a really good performer. And plus I know exactly what I can do. If I show up for a scene with a new girl, does she have a pet peeve with throat gagging?"

Horn remembers doing a scene with a girl who was real specific about the anal entry. Perhaps a little too specific. "She said when you go in for the first anal position twist your pelvis do it goes up and then it comes down because that's the only way she'll do it. But I already know all the little tricks of the trade with Nicki because I've been fucking her for eight years. I'll do every scene that I can with Nicole."

Horn said the best part was reading the Adultfyi article the next day about his cene with Hunter. "That whole part about the loin cloth- sitting on the ladder naked," he laughs. "I didn't think about it until the next day. I was running around the studio naked fixing stuff up."

Something that Clint Eastwood can't even make claim to, Horn has done sex scenes where he's also the director. "And so I've got to direct the scene and be naked," Horn says. "It's always fun."

Horn and Hunter will have been out here a year on Cinco de Mayo. "Originally Nicki was flying out here. She was with L.A. Direct Models. And I would stay home with the kids. She'd fly out here for a week or two weeks at a time. We've never been good at being separated. A lot of married couples look like they're getting along but they don't. But we were born to be together. We grew up together. We've been best friends our whole life. Even now, Nicki's gone for five days in Sacramento. I don't sleep as well when she's gone. So we just decided, if we're going to do it, we're going to do it. We moved out here last year and got a place. We've been working together- whenever possible- ever since."

Horn goes on to explain that his and Hunter's fathers are both preachers. "We were very sheltered as kids," he says. "We had no idea of sex. We know sex sells like in beer commercials but we had no idea that people in porno had so much money and that strippers made so much money." Horn mentions that he once owned a construction company and was apparently doing pretty well with it.

"Right until about 9/11," says Horn who studied economics in college. "I knew that new construction takes a big dive when the economy takes a dive. I sold my company the very next day. I figured, okay, now what am I going to do? Nicole was continuing to be a nurse and I was doing some other jobs here and there. We went to Mardi Gras the following year. She got really drunk and danced naked on the table. Guys starting throwing money at her. The businessman in me just clicked and said if she's okay with it. Dude, I had no idea that sex sells so much money. We had a friend who was a stripper and Nicki started dancing at that club. Originally it was fun because she enjoyed that attention. But she started making some really good money. She quit being a nurse and then we started figuring out that it was the features who are the ones who really clean up, not the house dancers."

Hunter was a nurse in a critical care unit. "It was life and death kind of stuff," said Horn. "Four or five days a week, she worked the night shift and that's when she got to see the really interesting stuff. She really enjoyed being a nurse. It was more than a paycheck. We actually made some friends- people who were there when they were saving the person's life. And we're still friends with them."

Among those friends were Holly and Troy Halston from Florida. "Holly suggested that Nicki start dancing as a feature," says Horn. "So she introduced her to a woman named Danielle who's an agent for the Lee Network. Danielle said, honestly, I can get you some gigs but you're not going to make any money until you have a name in porn. So Danielle gave Nicole L.A. Direct's number. And she started coming out here."

Horn and Hunter got a jump on things when they began having sex for a website. "She'd do scenes with girls and I'd do scenes with girls sometimes. And she had done one or two boy-girl scenes for local website companies but most of the time it was with me. And we were swingers to begin with. Ever since that event at Mardi Gras we realized that we had a lot of fun fooling around with other people, too. So we were already pretty comfortable with our sexuality with other people. To this day we still play around with other people and go to swing clubs and stuff, sometimes. The biggest difficulty in the beginning was for her trying to wrap her brain around the idea of me not being jealous. Because I understand it's wok. I love my wife. Even if she did have a thousand orgasms during a scene, I want her to feel good. I wish she would enjoy every scene that she did. But once she got it through her head that I wasn't jealous, she started performing much better."

I ask Horn if there'd ever been a time when he'd go nutso. Horn again explains that the Mardi Gras experience was a revelatory one. "We were raised in the church and a married couple assume you have sex with each other and that's it," he points out. "We never really considered that other stuff. But jealousy is a very selfish emotion. By definition, it's selfish. Our definition of love is selflessness. If you really love somebody what would you sacrifice for them and their hapiness. For me jealousy doesn't make sense. Jealousy is the fear of losing something. Jealousycauses you to act in such a way that makes that thing want to leave you. It makes you act crazy. It makes you accuse people of things they didn't do. It doesn't make sense to me."

According to Horn, Hunter has gotten jealous if he does scenes and she's not around. "She like to be present," he says. "In the back of her head she has a little bit of fear that one day I'll meet that one girl that I just have a spark with. Then I'll never be able to get that girl out of my head for the rest of my life. I doubt it'll ever happen because Nicki's the girl that guys can't get out of their head." As far as he's concerned, Horn has never been jealous of his wife doing scenes. "Sometimes I get angry at the guys who beat her up. I understand that's part of the job."

I bring up the instance when Hunter worked for Meatholes. Horn said he didn't want her to do it. "I haven't seen the scene she did but I've seen other scenes," says Horn. "That's borderline rape. As a husband, I suggest this to other girls, it's not worth it. It's not worth the money." Horn claims Hunter was offered double the usual amount to do the scene. "I still didn't want her to do it," he says. "But she's a grownup. If she wants to do it that's her choice. It's not the biggest shining moment in my life. I'm not proud that she did it. I wouldn't want her to do it again. But at the same time she makes her own decisions." If given the opportunity, Horn would not do a scene like that. "I wouldn't work for Meatholes," he says.

"Even the scene I did with Tom was a bit rough for me," Horn goes on to say. "When I do a scene I prefer the more romantic kind. Not necessarily lovey-dovey. But I'm not big into the fish hook, choking the girls. The thing is if you're paid to do a job you have to do what the director wants. But I think the scene I did with Nicole for Tom is as far as I'd go. And even then I've done rough scenes in the past and would make sure that I'd talk to the girl in advance, letting her know that I have complete respect for you. I'm just being paid to do a job. I try to bring the girl a rose to let her know that even if she does get a little roughed up, it's just because the director wants it, not because I'm enjoying it that much. But if the scene was the girl roughing me up, I wouldn't have a problem with that. But I guess it's easier to sacrifice yourself than it is to sacrifice somebody you love."

On the family front, Horn's parents got more angry when they found out about his career. "Whereas her parents were more hurt," he says. "They felt like they were betrayed by Nicole, that she betrayed all the things they tried to instill in her. Nicole was raised more strict than the average preachers family. Like to the point where we first started dating, we went to the park and took her younger brother with us. There was this cigarette on the ground and he went to pick it up. And Nicole wouldn't let him pick it up. She said don't touch it. It'll give you cancer. We were 16 but she had been so sheltered that she believed just touching a cigarette could give you cancer. That's my biggest problem with parents sheltering their kids. You can go too far and your kids lose track of reality. She still talks to her mom but it's like a phone call here and a phone call there."

Horn and Hunter began dating when he was a senior in high school. She was a sophomore. "We went to a musical- a school play that my sister was starring in. We went as friends. At some point we started kissing and it hit me. Apparently she had a crush on me for years and I didn't know it. That night we started kissing and it hit me, oh my God, I am friends with the greatest girl in the world. I should totally be dating this girl. Basically we've been together ever since." Horn swears that they waited until their wedding night to have sex. "Our wedding night was one hell of a night. But we were both virgins." Horn figures that it was a year and a half that he held out.

"But we did a lot of rolling around making out like back in the Fifties kind of stuff," Horn says. "We didn't have sex until we were married and that's how we were raised. And regardless of what we do now, I'm glad that we did. I loved my wife before I knew she was my wife. I loved her so much that I waited for her and she did the same for me. Even when she was 16 and dating this guy Casey she decided she was going to wait because she wanted that to be for me. And she loved me before she had a ring on her finger. No matter how you're raised I think it's cool to wait."