Porn Valley- By now Max Hardcore’s federal raid is a story that has been told www.adultfyi.com/read.aspx?ID=12267, and Max told it again Friday night on KSEX’s The Wanker Show. Max brought Exhibit A along with him bearing a hole from a shotgun blast, noting that it was a piece of plywood.

“It’s flooring material,” said Max, www.maxhardcore.com. “This is from the floor in my house. Wankus said he’s been in Max’s house but it didn’t look like a floor piece. Max said that’s because it was under he carpet. Wankus asked if it was the Feds who labeled it courtesy of the FBI. Max said he did it.

“I labeled it for posterior.”

Max noted that he’s been making movies since 1992. Wankus brought up the issue Max had with the law four years ago.

“They accused me of obscenity in 2001 for a couple of movies including Golden Guzzlers 1 and Max Extreme 4- that was a state thing,” Hardcore explained. “It was right here in L.A. That’s a part of the vice dept. We have a vice dept. We have a separate pornography division. It’s the taxpayers dollars at work. I guess what these guys do is look at a lot of dirty movies all day long until they find something they think is too outrageous, or too much for the tender mercies of the viewing public.” Max said he beat the state obscenity charge.

“It’s a dogfight- it really is,” he continued. “It’s not like in the movies. That took almost four years to be done with and this deal might even go on longer. It’s hard to say. I haven’t been charged with anything yet. But one of the freakiest things that can happen to any living person in the U.S. is to get raided by the fucking FBI.”

Wankus noted that Max was out of the country when it happened.

“I’m quite sure they knew I was out of the country,” said Max. “They knew when I was gone because they must be afraid of me or something because they waited for me to leave.”

Max said on the morning of October 6th, the FBI executed a search warrant about 9:30 in the morning.

“My house keeper Adelina was there.” Wankus asked if she was legal. Max said yes and that he’s got two eyewitnesses.

“Another one of my guys was there- he’s been with me for a long time. He wasn’t intimidated by these guys because he’s seen them before and he’s got his paperwork together. They were waiting- they could have left- but they saw what happened. Fifteen agents- it’s hard to say- half of them were FBI and half of them were the local goon squad. They came up and Adelina had to let them in. So they went and sent four or five specialists into the house before the rest of the gang. These were the house cleaning specialists. These are the guys who go in and secure the location with guns drawn and everything. They walked in and it’s a big house so it took them a long time to clear every room.”

Max said his housekeeper was downstairs with his dog. Wankus asked if the Feds did an anal cavity search of the dog. Max said he didn’t know but the dog was walking a little funny.

“My house keeper could have been hit,” Max continued. “She was downstairs and the bullet went off upstairs. Who knows what could have happened. It shouldn’t have went off in the first fuckin’ place. These are specialists that go in and secure the property. These guys are supposed to know better. This guy made at least three mistakes. He must be so embarrassed over the situation. By the way, we intend on doing everything legal in our power to fight this and this deal, too.”

Wankus suspected that the Feds can make their own rules in these situations.

“They can make their own rules,” Max conceded. “But they still got to follow some fuckin’ rules. And one rule we got is this is America. It ain’t Russia. For that I’m very thankful. And I’m going to stand up and show these guys. They can’t say it’s illegal. Only a jury can make that ruling. The chances of that happening in this day and age are slim and none. And Slim left town four years ago when I got acquitted of the last charges.”

Max never received an explanation of the gun shot through the floor.

“They said nothing about it- it went off and my house keeper panicked, oh my God, somebody got shot. Everybody’s yelling what happened, what happened?”

“Doesn’t a shotgun kind of spray?” Wankus asked.

“Not when it’s literally a couple of inches off the floor,” Max replied.

Wankus wondered what could possess an agent to do something like that.

“It’s unbelievable that this could happen,” stated Max. “They know me. They know I’m no threat. It’s not like a drug house invasion or something like that. They know what’s going on.”

Wankus offered the possibility that Max was being fucked with. Max agreed.

“I was in Barcelona at the time attending the huge sex show,” said Max. “I was having a great fucking time over there and I did not cut my stay short. I stayed the full week. Some people were asking am I coming back right away. What the fuck could I do? They came in- they fucked me up good. They took all my computers. They even took my servers but for some reason they gave them back right away. Their logic is strange. The interesting thing about the charge is that it’s not specific to any sales. We don’t really know what the deal is. We’re trying to figure out the motives and what these guys are going to do. It defies comprehension because they’re all fucking fucked up anyway. You would be fucked up too if you had to sit in a room all day and watch fuckin’ shitty porno for the most part. I think the reason they came after me is because I’m doing the pissing and I’m doing the fist-fucking and really hard scenes. They always go after the hardest shit. This is not s surprise to me. But I thought they learned their lesson the last time I beat ’em.”

Asked if that activity was illegal, Max said nothing’s illegal until a jury decides it’s illegal.

“I was always told if you do a fisting scene to leave the thumb out,” said Wankus.

“The adult industry in America-exclusive of me- has pretty much come up with the idea that if you don’t stick the thumb in you’re okay. And for the most part you are. It’s like an unwritten rule. It’s not illegal and I say people have the right to do this shit. It’s not for everybody but if you want to see it, you ought to be able to. Leaving the thumb out I think is ridiculous. It’s asinine and I’m not going to play that game. I’m going to make the videos I want to make.”

Max says he makes two versions of his movies and that he’s being charged for the Euro-version.

Wankus noted that there are a few companies in the states who make Euro-versions.

“But I was told you were selling some of the Euro-stuff in America.”

Max said, yes. “If people wanted to get it, they could get it. It’s international business nowadays. I wasn’t shipping to anybody and that’s what makes this case kind of strange. It’s always named in the complaint that he shipped such and such video to Pittsburgh or whatever. Then they make a federal case out of it. This is the second federal case they’ve made. They went after Rob Black after he taunted them. He was kind of expecting that. His case is on appeal right now.”

Max suspected that the Feds weren’t going to let Black off easily.

“They’re probably not going to try to let me off easy,” Max added. “But we’re going to beat this thing because it’s not the same as it used to be in America. People are more tolerant of different ideas especially where sex is concerned.” Max also hinted that he could move his servers overseas.

A caller-in had a few questions but it was stressed that Max hasn’t been indicted on any charges, that for now he’s being investigated.

“We don’t know exactly what they’re going to charge me with,” Max told the caller. “If it’s a public nuisance I’ll plead guilty to that.”

It was suggested that the Feds shooting a hole in his floor was a public nuisance. Max said he could get the government to admit it.

“There’s a couple of witnesses.”

Of the titles being looked at in the current raid, Max said there was Fists of Fury 3- an obvious fisting movie [“there’s a lot of fist fucking going on there”] and Golden Guzzlers 5 & 6.

“Why they picked out these titles I have no idea,” he said. “They think they can get a conviction on obscenity but I don’t think they can.”

Wankus asked Max is he was representative of the future of porn or a certain division of porn.

“I do what I do,” said Max. “I didn’t follow anybody except what I thought was right. I kind of stole the best positions and ideas and modified them over the years and created something new out of it. People are definitely making more hardcore porn. There’s more violence. Some of the scenes look like rape and what not. There’s a lot of hard throat-fucking and that comes from the videos I was making in the mid to late ’90’s. People saw that and said this shit is selling really good. Why don’t we try it too.”

Max thinks that because he’s ahead of the curve, the cops have him in their crosshairs.

“We’ve got to trip this guy up because we don’t want everybody doing it. When you’re ahead of the pack you’re going to be the first one to step on the landmine. And it is a minefield because you don’t know what the hell is legal or not. They don’t say fist fucking is illegal. It’s not in any law book. They don’t say pissing on somebody is illegal. You always get a jury and lay out your case. And the government lays out their case and then the jury watches the movies in question.”

Wankus wondered if Max goes into a courtroom with his cowboy hat on.

“You got to take your hay off in court- and your bandana, too,” said Max glibly.

Wankus said he saw Skeeter Kerkove the other day.

“He didn’t have the bandana on- he looked all respectable. He had a nice dress shirt on. I’m going what are you doing? He said I can’t go into court looking like a fucking gangsta.”

A question came in from the chat room about Courtney Simpson saying she lied about not doing anal and pissing. She had worked with Max.

“I call that selective whore memory,” Max replied. “Some things are just too horrible to bear the thought of recollection. So you put them out of your mind.” Max said he didn’t have to twist Simpson’s arm too much to work with him.

“I said, look- you’re going to drink piss and you’re going to get fist fucked. And you’re going to get throat-fucked until snot’s coming out your nose.” Not to mention great craft services, Wankus quipped.

Max told Simpson this is what all the cool girls are doing now.

“She had no problem- she did it. Anal for her was difficult because she never had it sustained in the past, just a couple of pokes and strokes. That’s been about it. But I showed her how to do it the right way, which is the Max way. We got it up that keister of hers. She squealed, then it was almost a religious experience.” Max said he never pissed in Simpson’s asshole but that he pissed in her mouth.

“She gargled it, she drank it. I throat-fucked her good and she’s excellent at throat-fucking. She’s a good girl now. I don’t know what her thinking is to deny that this happened. You can see it right on tape. All you have to do is watch the trailers for the movie. She’s on Max Factor 14 and Pure Max 20 which can be got at www.maxhardcore.com ”

From conversations with other women, Wankus said he’s heard that Max always sets the stage and tells you what’s going to happen.

“He doesn’t make you do anything. There’s no surprises.” Max concedes that there’ a difference between telling someone you’re going to throat fuck them then to turning them upside down on a couch and having them on the receiving end of something like that. Not to mention puking on the dick, Wankus added.

“And you don’t stop.”

“That’s when things get interesting,” Max replied. “All the girls do it. It looks so good, especially when a girl drinks a lot of water. It’s a beautiful thing.”

Asked if he thought he was on a modern day track to be another Larry Flynt, Max said he didn’t know about being a martyr but that he has to fight for his personal freedom.

“I believe that Americans should be able to see this stuff,” said Max. “They don’t really look at it that differently than in Europe. It’s all legal. They don’t hassle the sex shops. The sex shops pay their money and everybody’s fuckin’ happy over there.”

Wankus said as long as nobody is hurt…

“Take out the nobody gets hurt part and I’ll go along with you,” said Max. “After all sex is a full contact sport and there’s definitely going to be some discomfort.”

Wankus asked Max what the support level from the industry has been, noting that the industry tends to be fickle and turns it back on people at times. “It all plays a political game.”

Max said both he and his lawyer have received phone calls and e-mails expressing support.

“My attorney is Jeffrey Douglas- very, very qualified; if it does go further, I’m probably also going to be taking on the counsel of Lou Sirkin.” Max said Sirkin was the counsel for Extreme Associates.

“He’s a very experienced guy and knows what to do- we’re going to challenge them every step of the way, everything from the get-go, the search warrant, the seizure of the shit. We’re going to fight them every step of the way. It’s going to be costly.”

Wankus said people are under the impression that everyone’s rich in porn.

“It’s a very, very tough business to be in,” said Max. “There’s not a lot of profit on any particular projects. You can only be successful over time with a lot of product, a lot of releases and just stick to it.” Fortunately, said Max, he also has a pretty successful website. He urged everyone to go to the site and see what the controversy is all about.

Wankus pressed Max for some good, inside stories about girls freaking out.

“I know you brought the retard in here one time.” Max said it wasn’t a true retard. Wankus gave the back story that Max picked the girl up at a bus stop.

“And Catalina pissed all over her. And Bisexual Britni and Catalina were just beating the fuck out of this poor girl.”

Max said the girl was so annoying it was beyond belief. However one of the craziest things that have happened to him recently, said Max, was an incident with a girl name Shilo who was a complete psycho.

“I think she’s on Max Factor 13- right in the middle of the scene she snaps and starts talking about, of all things, hippies. I had no idea where she was coming from but she was getting up and flapping her arms going goddamn hippies. I didn’t expect to get a ride over here in a VW bus with oranges in the backseat. She completely lost it. She was stomping her feet on the stage.” Max said it happened in the middle of a scene. “It was an interesting little deal.”

Max assumed she was doing that to fuck him up. For the most part, the hairiest situations said Max is the mental instability of the girl.

“In general I’ve always been able to reel it in except for a couple of real wackos that we just finally didn’t finish the scene. We decided it was best to quit.”

Wankus asked Max if at the age of 18 he ever thought he’d be having conversations about chicks with sore asses.

“I just knew that I liked chicks and taking pictures of them was better than banging nails,” Max said. “I had no idea or plan to become a porn producer and performer. I just got tired of living down Key West- too many fucking hurricanes.” However, Max said there were a lot of women especially when the tourist girls came down there.

Max can’t honestly say what his favorite movie is. “I’ve got too many favorites.” Shooting on the beach in Cannes or in helicopters over Brazil rate right up there, he says. Max also recalled doing a scene with Allison Embers.

“That crazy bitch who accused me of raping her years ago and fucking her with a loaf of French bread. She was a total fucking bitch. She was yelling and complaining and high on fucking drugs. Ever time I caught her she’s doing drugs. I said stop that man, there’s no way we can work.”

Max also put in a word for his new find Layla Rivera. Wankus seemed to recall the last time she was on the show she wouldn’t show her tits.

“Then I met her later and she was very cool and a lot of fun.”

“She’s a totally cool, hot babe,” said Max. “She’s now an official Max girl. She’s got a great attitude. Layla takes it up the ass and is down with great throat-fucking. She doesn’t mind pissing at all. She loves to fist fuck other girls and is into bread and is into all sorts of appliances including the speculum.”

Asked what was going on with Catalina, Max said she was out of the picture

“She kind of ran it to the end and got tired of it, like people get tired of their work and their jobs. She said, fuck it, I want to do something else. And she went on and is now doing something else- I guess.”

Wankus wondered if working for Max took a mental toll on her.

“Everything is possible,” Max replied. “A cow flying over the moon is possible. That don’t mean it’s likely.”

Max acknowledged that Catalina was one of the dirtiest girls around and was great. But Wankus couldn’t believe that she tried to charge him for a blow job.

“That pissed me off.”

Max said that’s because Catalina’s a working girl and that comes natural to them.

“Cat was a handful but we traveled all over the world and had a great time.”