Porn Valley- Tricia Devereaux made her first appearance on KSEX, www.ksexradio.com on The Wanker Show Monday night. Devereaux discussed her career in porn which was abbreviated by HIV, her relationship with Rob Black and now the fact that she's married to John Stagliano. Wankus noted that he and Devereaux, who's from Ohio and had a year of medical school under her belt, have chatted on the boards and met at the KSEX Games last year, but this was their first official meeting.
Devereaux mentioned that she stripped at Deja Vu while she was in college. While there she talked to a number of feature girls who would direct her to their agent. "Which coincidentally was Jim South. He was the main agent back then."
Devereaux sent some pictures that were seen by Joey Silvera and she was encouraged to come to California. Noting that she was married at the time, Devereaux said she came out for a brief while and loved it. However, her husband wasn't thrilled about the idea. "How can you love it? He was pretty upset." Devereaux said she did boy-girl from the get-go including anal. "I didn't know you were supposed to hold out for the anal," she laughs.
Asked by Silvera if she did anal, Devereaux figured she did it in her private life, why not. Her first scene was with Joey. "It was fine." Devereaux said she went home and told her husband she wanted to come back. "He was really upset. About six months later we separated."
Devereaux said there were a lot of problems in the relationship to begin with and she might not have come out had they not existed.
Devereaux said she also ran into problems with her conservative community when they found out she was stripping and doing videos. Devereaux said she was also accused of cheating in school and was asked to sign papers to that effect. She wouldn't sign the papers because she didn't cheat. Devereaux notes that other students including a professor had come into the club where she was dancing. She cried when she thought the professor had seen her. Being young and going through a difficult point in her life, Devereaux said she was done with that nonsense and so came out to California, finally. She worked in videos about a year and a half.
It was noted that she almost married Rob Black. Pressed for details, Devereaux didn't want to say anything "too mean". Wankus said he's heard that Black had calmed down but was really obnoxious way back when. According to Devereaux, when she first met Black he was very humble. "But that's because he had no power."
Black subsequently got a directing contract with Elegant Angel, Devereaux noting that it was the biggest contract next to Paul Thomas. "As far as money and stuff." Consequently said Devereaux, Black acquired an ego and changed as a person. "It didn't work any more. He was very possessive and wouldn't let us break up. It was a bad situation." Devereaux says Black wouldn't allow her to work with any other guys besides himself. But Devereaux was also willing to concede that she's into rough sex. "Like he'd get off with seeing people abuse me. He's like see what this is?" Devereaux feels while she gets off on it, you don't have to be demeaning about it. "It just didn't work out."
After she broke up with Black, Devereaux says she heard he got worse and worse. "Now I hear he's being nice again. I think that's maybe a little but because he needs to be nice to some people."
Addressing the abuse issue, Devereaux is inclined to believe in certain cases it's a matter of showing a man being dominant and a woman having no control over her life. "Some people like to show that, and some people like to see it. But I think overall the porn I like to see- and there's a lot of it at there- is the porn where a woman is very much in control of her sexuality. And even if she's playing a submissive in a scene or a submissive in life, she knows that's what she likes and controls how far it goes."
Devereaux said she had won her first AVN award a week before when she found out she had HIV. She got a call from her agent and that her ELIZA had come back inconclusive. "I had to get another blood test." Devereaux thought to herself, my god, what's going on. Devereaux remembers driving down the 405 five o'clock on a Friday.
"We didn't have the AIM clinic then," she recalls. "I was driving on the 405 to Venice to get my blood tested. I'm crying on the freeway. I got the test and it came back inconclusive again."
Devereaux then took a DNA test. She talked about how she held herself up in her apartment and wouldn't answer the phone. "People started leaving messages, did you kill yourself? You're not answering your phone." Devereaux then started picking up her phone.
"I talked to a couple of friends then found out the next week I did have HIV." She got that news over the phone. "It was a lab person." What made it also hard said Devereaux was that she was going around to some of the big companies at the time, attempting to land a contract. "I was never one of the glamorous ones," she said. "But I had decent sex scenes. And I never flaked which was a plus."
Devereaux said she wasn't ready to quit the business but obviously didn't have a choice. "I had some good friends in the business and a couple of my friends were shooting bondage. Hey, we hear you're kind of into some rough stuff." Hence, Devereaux got booked for some bondage scenes and liked it a lot. "But some rumors were going around that I had been doing heroin and doing prostituting. None of those things had been true."
Devereaux then felt the need to leave the area. By this time she had made the acquaintance of Stagliano. "I found out he had HIV from casual sex. We went out on a date and I got kissed good night on the cheek." Devereaux then moved home to her family to get away from everything.
Wankus asked if having sex for the first time with Stagliano was weird knowing that each other had HIV. Devereaux said it was very weird. "Our big concern was whether he and I could have sex together without a condom. I talked to my specialist and he talked to his specialist." Devereaux was told they'd be okay and probably not re-infect one another. Stagliano by this time was undetectable. "And my viral load was so crazy low because I had just gotten it." Devereaux described the whole instance as being like teenagers making a move one another. The first time it happened was in a hotel room.
"We were wondering are we going to do anything? It was sweet. It kind of clicked." Another plus, Devereaux says is the fact that Stagliano's built the way she likes men. "He's very athletic and has the build I like being with. It kind of felt nice. And we became good friends before we had sex because were talking on the phone like four or five times a week." What also helped matters, says Devereaux, was the fact they were both from the Midwest, Stagliano being from Chicago. "He went back to Chicago and I went to see him. So if he weren't from Chicago I don't know if we'd be together today. We might not have seen each other those few weekends."
Asked what role at Evil Angel she plays, Devereaux described it as being Stagliano's right hand person with personal things, noting that she's also helping out a lot with the current Fashionsistas show in Vegas. "I was managing the DVD dept. fully but David Crawford is the DVD manage now and I help over see it."
Then, a couple of weeks ago, Devereaux began handling company. p.r. "I had never done p.r. before. But I'm still learning some of those things."
Wankus then addressed some snide comment made in the KSEX chatroom that although Devereaux seemed pretty cool, she was slowly dying. Wankus said this is a typical comment made by someone uneducated about HIV. Devereaux explained that she goes to her doctor every three months.
"I think I'm just as healthy now as I was back then," she said. "When I get a cold I get rid of it just as fast as anybody else in the office." For those reasons, Devereaux said she probably takes better care of herself, too. On top of that, she doesn't smoke.
"And I don't drink as much," she adds. "I'm more healthy because I feel I should be. As long as the medicines keep working for me, I'll just keep taking them for the rest of my life until they come up with something better." For a man 52, Devereaux said Stagliano is in better shape than half the guys still doing porn.
Wankus mentioned that he was nervous to interview Stagliano in Vegas this past January. Deveraux said Stagliano has a reputation for it. "He's very private about his personal life. In the mid-Nineties he lost a girlfriend in a car accident. He kind of like really withdrew. He was even a little shy before that. He's a shy person."
For the Fashionistas movie, Devereaux said she was assistant director. "It was such a great experience. I was the script person. God, I did everything." Devereaux notes that Jim Malibu was the production manager on the shoot. "But other than Jim Malibu, everything else that needed to be done, I was pitching in."
As far as the vegas stage show goes, Devereaux said a lot of naysayers kept telling Stagliano that it wasn't going to happen. "Now we've got reviews that say this is what an adult show in Vegas should be. It's a good feeling for him I'm sure."
Asked if she had any regrets, Devereaux wished she was still performing. "I like being behind the camera, too." And the positive thing about dating Rob Black, according to her, is that she didn't know how much she liked rough sex. "Now I love it. But it helped me evolve sooner. I learned those things."