Porn Valley- On a recent Wednesday night show on KSEX, Wankus and co-host Michelle Lay got into a conversation about male porn performers who shoot their dicks up in the latrine.
"You fucked an escort like this," said Wankus bringing up the time Lay had Nick Manning come over to service her.
"People before a scene stuck a needle into their penis to give it the extra arousal," Wankus continued.
"The topic isn't something new," Lay agreed. Wankus said some of the guys work a lot and that's why they do it for the extra boost. Wankus heard the name of the drug, couldn't think of it but it was something you jam in the base of the cock above the balls.
"Pffooooof, like bull for the scene."
When he heard those stories in the past, Wankus said he laughed at them.
"If you have to stick a needle in your dick you shouldn't be in the business," he said. "Jamming a needle in your fucking cock? What are you doing?
Wankus noted that Manning shot up his dick in the bathroom when he went to see Lay on an escort call.
"But at the time I didn't know because I hadn't even done porn yet," said Lay. "So with Nick, I did a condom."
Lay stated that she does non-condom scenes but tries to protect herself a little more.
"I pick who I work with- although it's not a hundred percent safe, I do take extra steps," she said. Lay mentioned a situation where she worked with one guy a couple of times. The last scene she did with him, he came out with something in his pocket.
"We did the scene," said Lay. "Afterwards I went into the bathroom- there was a top to a needle and an alcohol wipe. I will no longer work with that guy again." Lay said if the guy wants to use a needle, fine.
"A guy is not going to admit to it because he's embarrassed," she added. "But there's blood- that's an open wound. When you go and stick a needle in your dick and then go fuck a chick, that whole thing is, why even get a test? Because that guy just threw the test out the window. He's putting his blood into you."
Lay was just on a set recently where it was a b-b-g- setup but she wasn't the girl in the scene,
"One of the guys was having a problem," Lay said. "Me and Reno [her husband] PM'ed for a Hustler shoot. We're standing there; the one guys goes into the bathroom, comes back out slapping his dick- they then go at the scene." Lay said it was kind of funny because during the softcore segment, the guys picked the girl up acting like they were both fucking her.
"They were having a sword fight with their dicks," Lay said. "Reno was shooting softcore camera and on the camera you could really see- sure enough there was a hole in it [the guy's dick] with blood coming out of it."
But, at the same time, Lay didn't expect her statement to make a change in anything.
"No one's going to step forward," she said. Wankus said it would if she named names. However, Lay was not inclined to go there.
"He's not the only guy, though," she reasoned. "There's lots of guys out there that do it." Lay said she doesn't know anyone who has admitted it.
"Dick Tracey admitted it when he did that gay scene for Lumberjacks," said Wankus. " [He said] I had to shoot my dick up to do that scene."
At the same time, Wankus said Tracey was a really nice guy.
"I don't understand why he's so defensive about the gay scenes he's done. It's, like, dude- they're out, they're public, everyone knows about it, just get over it. The more you fight it the more people are going to talk about it."
So Wankus took what Lay was saying as there should be a list of guys who shoot their cocks up.
"You have a choice to make- do I want to work with this guy?"
Wankus said he feels the same way about herpes in the industry.
"They don't test for herpes," said Wankus noting that if you went to a club and fucked a random chick with no condom, you ran a major high risk.
"You meet a porn star, take her home and fuck her with no condom, you're actually in good shape for the most part," he said. "Because the girls are regularly tested. But one thing the industry doesn't regulate is herpes and warts- they'll help you with it if you've got a problem but they don't make it a mandatory testing thing. I think it should be."
But he conceded the argument people would make that if you did that, there'd be no one left to shoot porn.
"Fuck you cocksucker, motherfucker," he continued. "There's be a Group A, Group B, Group C- you've been hired to work with Joe Blow today- he's in Group A which means he's completely clean. Or you're working with Joe Kakafoofoo in Group B which means he has herpes. Which means you have a decision to make- do I want to fuck a Group B person when I'm in Group A? Or maybe I'm also a Group B person and we can work together. They have herpes fucking dating networks- we can do it in porn, too. Nobody at home will know that you're carrying the fucking bumps. Who gives a rat's twat?"
Lay agreed with what he was saying but noted that herpes is impossible to test for.
"The virus only shows up when someone's having an outbreak," she said.
"That's not true!" Wankus roared. "It's in your blood stream at all times. You can check it with a blood test. You can know if you're Type A which is the oral or Type B which is the genital. One in four people have genital herpes. When you do a blood test, you can check- even if you don't have an outbreak, it shows up. I've banged porn stars for a long time. I've done the research!"
Lay said she used to date a guy for ten years and tested for herpes three times during that period.
Wankus felt there should be a classification because there are too many people in the industry who have herpes.
"I don't have it yet and I might get it some day- but there are too many people that have the herps and their attitude is- and I'm sorry to mention this, Rhiannon Bray- their attitude is, fuck it. Everyone's going to get it anyway, I don't give a shit. That's the attitude of a lot of these girls- fuck it, I got to pay my rent. I don't care if I'm having an outbreak."
Lay agreed that there are a lot of people like that, not just in the business but in the world.
Herpes is a common thing- there's commercials on it," she said.
Nonetheless, Wankus was surprised that with all the women he's fucked non-condom in his life, he's never had an outbreak.
Gene sez: Here's one reason why Wankus' proposed Classification would never be adopted. Imagine a male or female talent who gets paid top of the ladder rates classified in the C group- his or her desirability would plummet and so would their asking price.