Porn Valley- On one of their last shows for KSEX, www.ksexradio.com, Felicia Fox and Tim Case got into a discussion about Rob Black [with a trial date yet to be announced] and Fox noted that she had done several Black-type rough sex scenes doing her career.
Fox and Case talked about a discussion they had with Mike South in which South voiced the opinion that the bulk of the porn world should ostracize Black. Fox said she didn't agree. And Case said it was his opinion that the industry should stand united. "Or we'll fall divided."
Fox said while she's done some of the rougher stuff out of curiosity, her feeling was that the average public was against the industry. "I don't care whether you're a stripper, whether you're a hooker, whether you're a director, whether you're an actress, if you're in the adult business, everybody is pretty much lumped and grouped altogether as one. Most of your average people think we're trash."
Then, again, Fox said she didn't agree with a lot of the scenes that were being done. "But I won't turn my back on it." Fox's point is that the government will eventually go after vanilla porn. "It's the domino effect. They think we're all scumbags."
It was also Fox's opinion that the industry needs to sit down and say look we need to pull this out of our product. "We don't need someone from the outside telling us you're going to pull this out."
Case wondered what happens when someone wants to continue shooting that type of stuff.
"If there's a market for a girl getting smacked around, if there's a market for a girl filling her ass cavity full of milkshakes, and Rob Black doesn't shoot it, by God somebody else will. If you've got someone who's not willing to abide by the wishes of the community-at large, what do you do then? I think that's what Mike South was trying to say. He was trying to say, look, this guy, we've tried to get him to calm down, he ain't calming down, if the government wants to go after him, fuck him. Let them take him down."
Fox also made the point that while Black has been asked to calm down, no one else in the industry apparently is. "His Extreme stuff is no different than Anabolic's. Why would they calm down when Platinum X is shooting the same thing? Elegant Angel is shooting the same thing. They just happen to catch the wrath for it."
Case pointed out that Black made himself a target "on purpose, basically." Fox said that was their thing that people wanted to see Extreme as this wild and crazy porn company. Fox's opinion is that bukkake was just as vile.
"It's complete fucking trash. They shouldn't even shoot that stuff. And masturbation's illegal in certain fuckin states." Fox pointed out that mainstream Hollywood makes movies with rape scenes. "Every day - with murder in them. Our world is pretty fucked up people. Turn on the news. You'll see more violence than you've ever seen before."
Fox was asked if there was a place for product in the industry as shot by Mason, Rob Black, and Khan Tusion.
"There's a buyer for it," Fox answered. Case wondered if having a market justifies production of the material.
"There's a market for child pornography," he pointed out. Fox, on the other hand, said you're talking about adults and no one was getting hurt. So Case took that to mean that pissing and fisting are okay.
"If a girl were to actually be getting hurt on the set, it's her fucking fault for not saying fuck you, stopping and walking off. If she's going to go through it and let someone hurt her and let her asshole get ripped open from an anal scene, then that's her fucking fault."
Case saw it as a point of decision argument.. "Her decision is when he says this is what we're going to do. If she says give me the money... " Case said the problem is when they start springing surprises on the performer. "That's wrong," said Fox who said it's happened to her.
