> From the NY Post: "GIRLS Gone Wild" mogul Joe Francis [pictured] wants to go big-time. Insiders say Francis is not content with putting out videos of tipsy college girls (and now guys) doffing their tops and dropping their pants while on Spring Break or at Mardi Gras. He now has an eye on Playboy. "He wants to buy Playboy," our well-informed source said. "Think about it - who's a better candidate to be the next Hugh Hefner?" While it sounds like a crazy idea, those in the know say "Girls Gone Wild" made more money than Playboy last year. A rep for Francis declined comment.

> loop writes on ADT: first of all i want to make it clear that in general i have nothing against rough sex (choking , slapping , maxhardcore , meatholes , jm , etc) as long as both sides are willing to do it .

as to steven french , i never liked seeing him perform , i just hated the way he treats the girls but that's just me. but after i read this post of alex devine in the extremegirlforum it really pissed me off and i thought others should know about it.

here's what she wrote -

Ok, I am finally going to reply to this.... DONKEY PUNCH was the most brutal, depressing, scarey scene that I have ever done. I have tried to block it out from my memory due to the severe abuse I recieved during the filming. I had been made to believe that the scene was going to be more sex, penetration, and rough as opposed to being 'beat up' with a few penetrations. The guy, Steve French has a natural hatred towards women in the sense that he has always been known to be more brutal than EVER needed. I agreed to do the scene thinking it was less beating, except the 'punch' in the head. If you noticed, steve had worn his solid gold ring the entire time, and continued to punch me with it. I actually stopped the scene while it was being filmed because I was in too much pain. I begged for him to remove the ring but he refused. That almost made me walk off the set and say 'fuck it'. I sucked it up and wanted to finish so i would be paid. Witht he ring on his hand still, we continued the scene.

**Now i am not sure how much you all know about me, but I have had some major surgeries on my head. One was on the lower back right of my skull.... The doctor never replaced the bone there because it grows back on its own. It had been several years since that surgery, and i now have grown a strong cartilage in place of my missing bone.

I had specifically explained that Steve could not hit that spot, and that anywhere else on my head was fine. I explained this to him as well, showing him on my head the places. He acknowledged the request of mine.As the pop happened he punched me several times in the head. Exactly where he was told not to. He did it with the ring on too.

*you can hear me scream in pain 'wrong side! ow, ow, wrong side!' in the movie and trailer. I had to re-do the pop shot/donkey punch for 'better footage' while in pain, and he wore the damn ring again.

At the end of my scene they had me sit on the couch with the directors and explain that I was ok and was willing to do the scene. I was in tears

I sincerely hope that no one enjoys that scene. I want to cry when I think about it.

> Derek 117 posts on ADT on the subject:As a watcher of porn/porn industry for many years, I can attest that there have always been people--male & females--in the porn industry (directors, producers, performers) who like to see/participate in abusing women on a porn set. They have existed since the days before porn went video, and became REALLY cheap to make--and opened the doors to more productions, and more abusers. The fact that fans continue to buy "rough sex" videos (in part) allows these haters to continue to practice their trade. Bottom line: if Steven French is an abuser, he's not alone.

Also, as the Alex Devine post suggests, many female performers are afraid of walking off sets...they'll get labeled as "flakes," druggies, divas, etc. The rare exception is Janine who walked off the set of her (Vivid) shoot with Rocco, when he disrepected her--too rough sex and deliberately torn condom. Of course, soon afterwards, she and Vivid could not "reach agreement" on a new contract.

Also, I recall an instance about eight years ago when a performer (Rachel something) threatened to sue Anabolic because of the physical punching/beating she took on their set. The threat of a lawsuit "went away"--and so did the girl. She never worked in porn again.

Both incidents suggest the high price a female performer will pay for standing up for her rights NOT to be abused or get beat up on a porn set!

> Melissa Lauren adds a post on ADT:allright here are my 2 cents. i know Steven, have worked several times with him, and never had a problem. very sweet guy.

i dont know Alex on the other hand...although i ve heard crazy stories about her being locked in a bathroom for half hour on set, doing drugs and being out of her mind. i m not saying it s true- just what i heard, and we know how gossip goes sometimes.

i ve been, on a director's side,in a situation where the girl i was shooting went through a really strong scene, never complained during it, smiled and asked for more, and after the shoot it was a whole different story.

basically blamed me for not respecting her limits (hello, you know you can say stop when you dont like something?)

blamed me for letting her drink on set (when she showed up on my set at 9 am with an almost empty bottle of wine)

etc... so i m kind of weirded out by that story.

it d be interesting to ask the director what exactly happened.

sometimes girls tend to make up or exagerate stories. seen it more than a couple of times. fortunately, there s always the unedited original tape , and/or witnesses.

> ipop continues the thread: After she decided to finish the scene, she should have finished it, then left and found a big motherfucker to go over there and wait for this guy to leave--and beat the fuck out of him. That's what people like this need.

Having said that, I think it would be great if all the good looking talent would just stop working for these assholes. Then they would be forced to choose between filming obscure, ugly talent, or cleaning it up a bit. As long as these girls keep accepting the scenes (and the agents sending them), these guys will continue. At a minimum, they could ask for half up front (non-refundable) for showing up and starting the scene, and the other half at completion. If you think about it, there's an incentive for these sadistic pukes to turn it up towards the end and hope they'll walk out (I assume they own the footage and the release is signed).

I recently rented a Meatholes movie before I knew what it was about--I just rented it because it had Dascha in it. Then I find out this is an abusive series by some pencil dick, lisping asshole who hides behind a muffled voice. In addition to Dascha (who really didn't take much of his shit) it also had a couple of other girls I like--Deja Daire, Katie Rae, and Tiffany Minx. It was kind of like watching a train wreck. I wanted to watch it to see how bad he was, but I wasn't turned on at all--I just continued getting more and more pissed at the guy. A lot of his abuse was more mental than physical--he succeeded in making every girl cry but Dashca--he didn't get near her and I'm guessing she brought her own male talent (Dillon Day). In a way, I sort of lose desire for a girl who chooses to stoop to this stuff. I also recently viewed Courtney Simpson's Max Hardcore scene from a free link. I knew I didn't like Max's stuff, but as much as liked her, I had to see her only anal. With the exception of the 1st few minutes, the whole scene is disgusting. How could a star like her be so desperate that she would do a scene like that? There's a full 5 minutes of him pissing in her mouth, snot and puke running down her face, up her nose, in her hair. I hate to be judgmental, but I think people who get off to this are sick. It really lowered her appeal to me--I hope she made a lot of money off that scene.

So girls, next time you think you are that desperate that you need to do one of these scenes for these guys, go show up at a tittie bar and dance a few hours--you can probably make just as much money and increase your fan base more.

> Sandra posts on www.xxxporntalk.com: Hello, I just got an email from this "company" to my www.onemodelplace.com account.- Hi XXXXXXX,

Amore TV Productions is a new company based out of Ft Lauderdale, FL. We are shooting several adult film lines that include, fetish, g/g, b/g oral and g/b/g. We would be interested in speaking with you about what we are shooting to see if your limitations match our current projects.

If you are interested please feel free to contact me at [email protected].

Regards

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I had "signed" on with them early last year and then the president of the company wanted to fuck him whenever for the job, in essence be his personal sex slave. this also was actually discussed within the contract. any girls feel free to PM me for more information since I see that one of there so called "agents" posts here as well. additionaly he never paid me for any of the shoots I did for him either.

BTW....the have additional comany names they go by so dont be fooled-

Adult Sex Tv, Global Tv

their OMP Page-

http://www.onemodelplace.com/member.cfm?P_ID=155963

> Hailey Young posts: the name on the OMP profile is Ely Thomas, the same Ely that runs alternativemodeling.com and has a known bad rep for scamming people and just being a plain out loser, sorry that happened to you, you should ask for refs next time sweetie

> Eli Thomas responds: Hi Hailey, I'm sorry you feel the way you do about me. I've always thought of you as a friend and have gotten you work in the past, asking nothing in return. I certainly would like to discuss any issues you have with me and how I run my business. Feel free to call me to discuss. You know my number. Call me

> Eli Thomas addresses Sandra: Hi Sandra, I started here about 2 months ago and I'm in charge of production and casting. I know nothing about the promises made to Sandra. Although, I am very interested in hearing her story and I will do everything in my power to resolve any issues that may have come from this.

Sandra, I would like to speak with you personally. I would like to address this with the person who did this to you myself. I am troubled by these accusations and will not stand for this kind of manipulation with any organization I work with.

I assure you, that now that I am here nothing like this will happen again.

Feel free to contact me directly at [email protected] or [email protected].